This video by journalist Brendan Hunt (aka X-Ray Ultra) proves beyond any doubt that Gene Rosen, an eye witness from the Sandy Hook event, is lying about a number of items.
It also delves into his connections with the Freemason secret society and other issues. The original version of this film was uploaded in 2013. It was then re-edited into a "final cut" in 2014, but Youtube forcibly removed it after less than a week. Please download and share this video before it is removed again.
Scroll down to read an exclusive debate between Brendan Hunt and a conspiracy theory debunker CW Wade.
CW: Excessive and cruel (no I didnt watch it all, of course not)... the ole guy is still there, a victim of circumstance and somewhat of his himself in thinking he should be in front of a camera telling his story.. and a victim of the press. From what I hear he's not looking too good these days. Ya he ran camera to camera.. but he's no secret agent.. just an ole guy that happens to live by and still live by a fire house in Sandy Hook. Not good B, too much. Besides that, if we are 18 months down the road and the best shot is a 2 hour rosen video, you might start reevaluating the position itself.
BH: how do you explain the discrepancy between rosen's testimony and that of the bus driver in the final report? how do you explain all the discrepancies in rosen's own story?? throwing around childish insults like "excessive and cruel" is beneath you wade. Gene is no victim, he's a proven liar, and now he stands exposed for all the world to see. you say he's no secret agent? his father is law is one of the most powerful members of the Royal Arch Masons in the Freemason secret society. I would be happy to debate this topic with you here as long as we stick to the facts.
CW: I wasnt insulting you, i was discussing the premise as being excessive and in that light, cruel or mean spirited. For example Even if you are correct (and I dont know if you are or not) and his father in law is a powerful mason, they dont extend masonic discussion to even their closest non-mason family, let alone their extended family.. in other words, even if you are correct, it wouldnt mean anything to Rosen's account of what happened. I've listened to every rosen thing in the past.. there is nothing inherently inconsistent in his statements.. the cruxt of it stays the same... Here is the point I would make...I would agree he is eccentric, somewhat odd, maybe like the old guy at the bar telling a story where the basic idea is true, but as he tells it this or that may change a little, but he is not evil. I think he was somewhat energized, perhaps felt what he was doing was important, maybe enjoying his 15 min, clearly affected by what he was apart of.. but there is no evil motive. You have to do better than "father in law was a mason" to make gene rosen a secret agent. hes still in newtown...
BH: it's not a question of IF his father in laws a mason. it's a fact: http://articles.courant.com/2000-10-26/news/0010253454_1_masonic-home-cemetery-scottish-rite-choir-wallingford. and while there's no information yet on gene being directly involved in the secret society, i wouldn't doubt it. the whole town is centered around that cryptic cult. there's a huge retirement center called Masonicare in town, i've seen the G symbol on Newtown police cars, and Newtown officials routinely meet with the Masonic members as evidenced by photos. you say that, as gene tells his story, "this or that may change a little" but you are neglecting the BUS DRIVER'S TESTIMONY in the final report, which completely contradicts Rosen. the most glaring example is that both the police and the bus driver say it was only 4 kids, but Gene says it was six!! and then he messes up how many boys and girls there were. so deal with those facts first and then we can move on to any other issues you may have with this video presentation.
CW: B, that link goes to a guy who died in 2000.
BH: Yes, that's Gene Rosen's father in law, the Royal Arch Mason. You can see Gene's wife listed in the surviving family members. I'm waiting for you to address the bus driver testimony.
CW: Ok so the mason link is very very weak. The link is dead 12 years before SH and the guy probably literally never ever mentioned mason to his daughters weird husband. never. I agree on the number of kids being a discrepancy and in fact i noted that on my my research blog back in February, no argument there. I dont have an answer for that. The police only interviewed one of the "Rosen house " kids included in the report as far as I could tell.
BH: "very very weak"? lol its his father-in-law! and his mother-in-law was dedicated to Masonry as well according to her obituary. who knows what gene himself is up to as far as that's concerned. but im glad you recognize the bus driver discrepancy. i think this is the first time i've seen you admit that you do not have an answer for something. :) the police allegedly interviewed a "rosen kid" & the bus driver at the same time, but they know who the other three kids are. so, at the very least, the police are mistaken and the bus driver/kid are lying OR gene is lying. that is too big a mistake to be accidental. either way, we have a liar in our midst and the police are not investigating as far as we know.
CW: I can't blog it in Feb then not admit it here ;) I've been aware of that inconsistency a long time. The police made a conscious decision not to interview every kid due to trauma (I forget their exact wording); I have mixed feelings on that. I hate to "pile on" the mean of gene, but I chalk it up to him being a little off. From a report point of view, IMO, and consistent with the bus driver - Rosen has to be the one wrong because 5 children were taken to newtown PD and interviewed and they are in the report. One of the "rosen house" kids wanted to talk to the police, he is in the report. (i dont recall if it was the same time as the bus driver) The other 3 werent interviewed as far as I know. There were 16 students in Soto's class that day - 9 kids escaped from Room 10 (5 to Newtown PD) , 5 were shot, 2 hid in the restroom. That means 4 to Rosen. So let me add this.. even if I agreed: Gene lied (ie intentional as opposed to weird guy error, which is what I actually believe), 4 kids .. not 6.. that doesnt make him a secret agent, that means he exaggerated by 2 kids, consistent with witness testimony. Thats still.. 4 survivors in his house from Room 10.
BH: you say that they only found 2 survivors in sotos closet? then why did the courant report "in their search for survivors, police found the remaining SEVEN of Soto's students still hiding in the closet." http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-15/business/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215_1_school-psychologist-classroom-special-education-teacher
CW: I don't buy the mason link.. masons dont talk to non masons about mason stuff. period. You have to do better than a 12 year dead mason to make gene a "evil" mason.
BH: again, you say that they only found 2 survivors in sotos closet? then why did the courant report "in their search for survivors, police found the remaining SEVEN of Soto's students still hiding in the closet." http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-15/business/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215_1_school-psychologist-classroom-special-education-teacher
CW: You may need to familiarize yourself with the facts from the report vs what the press has invented in their horrible reporting. This is why I remain the only person to have presented what happened in there based on the report.. even today.. no one wants to get it right... unfortunately.
BH: i know perfectly well what it says in the report. but if the courant article is wrong, why havent they corrected the info yet? it's been over a year! what makes you believe in everything that's in that final report? there are so many holes in it i could make swiss cheese.
CW: I don't answer for the press anymore than I would try to make you answer for Halbig. I analyze and present based on the evidence provided in the report. I believe it because it's sworn eye witness statements of dozens of officers, paramedics, parents emts, forensic evaluation, photos.. solid stuff. I know for a fact you can't grab 5 dozen cops, the entire office of the chief medical examiner, doctors, and paramedics and march in Obama and say "listen guys we need you to pull this thing off for illuminati gun control and masons." It's simply not reality and how people work in the real world. There would be a 2 dozen whistle blowers by now if it was even tried.
BH: you believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. right wade? that is was an inside job? the reasons you just listed: "There would be a 2 dozen whistle blowers by now if it was even tried" etc etc are the same tired old arguments used to distract from the truth about 911. and now youre parroting them. if you want people to believe your version of events wade, then you have to explain away many things. the bus driver testimony, how the final report conflicts with everything that was originally reported. the camo pants man that was arrested. the list goes on. make a video of your own tackling the hardcore evidence of foul play. prove to everyone how right you are. so far, all i've seen from you is that halbig is a fraud. something most of us could see right away. it's time for you to answer the tough questions. or you could start to recognize the obvious: that we've been lied to by the media and authorities.
CW: Bah, I've done a lot more work than "halbig is a fraud". The links in this thread never even mention halibig. That's not a fair accusation since my work is readily available to be viewed. The tough questions? Many of them have been proven to be completely invented from whole cloth (like the gene rosen sign in sign that wasnt even there AT ALL on day one, at any point). Christmas tree' etc. I'm not so sure i agree with you as to what I "have to do" or if I agree with what you consider "hard core evidence" ... but I will say the issue I'll call "The Woods", collectively, is a high priority issue I've been working on awhile, many many hours... its been by far the hardest issue to nail down... some loose ends there still remain to complete my work on that. The fact remains that you or in fact ANY hoaxer, with all your thousands of hours looking at this thing with a magnifying glass dont have a single solitary, even small piece, or relevant, legally admissible piece of evidence of hoax, not a witness, not a video, nothing tangible. Nothing that a judge would entertain for even a moment. Its all conjecture and leaps of logic. At some point, one of you hoaxers has got to answer my challenge and give me ONE piece of evidence of hoax.. even one.. Gene Rosen stuff with 12 years ago dead guy mason links is extremely flimsy and a waste of time... moreover, there is nothing new here.. its a rerun.
BH: well there u go wade, you say you tackled the tough questions and what example do you bring up? "the gene rosen sign in sign that wasnt even there." LOL i've never mentioned that piece of disinfo, and only a small fraction of truthers actually fell for that meme. you say we have no evidence?? why can't u explain the bus driver testimony?? u said you have no answer for that. this is conflicting eye-witness testimony and that my friend is EVIDENCE admissible in court to a judge. u wanna say Gene Rosen's father-in-law being a Royal Arch Mason is flimsy evidence? fine, that's your prerogative. but i mention that in passing about an hour into my video as one piece of the puzzle, not as my whole argument. you got some 'splaining to do, Lucy!
SuperGogetem: +WadesVids "What the press INVENTED in their horrible reporting". Well, you nailed that one.
paul carter: +xrayultra My granddad was a mason. What the hell does it mean. Unless you are a paranoid fruitcake they are just an organization. Unless you are talking about .....the .....Illuminated Freemasons!!
BH: +paul carter "How Gangs Used the Freemasons to Corrupt Police" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-how-gangs-used-the-freemasons-to-corrupt-police-9054670.html
CW: If you are going to keep googling random tabloid bs, you could support any theory and that means your limitation or quality control is not based on reality or real investigation, it is simply a limit you choose for yourself for your predetermined idea. In other words, you might as well be saying lizard people and aliens did it, then google up random links to show lizard people did this or that, then make a video and say it applies to SH. Tabloid bs is not relevant to real investigation. I'm not sure what I have to "splain" . I thought I did 'splain it. The preponderance of the evidence to me suggests the number of kids at genes house from Room 10 is 4 and you posted evidence to support that as well.. so we agree. That matches up perfectly with evidence I've presented in the past and matches several documents in the report. It also coincides well with facts such as math.
BH: The UK Independent is one of the most well-respected newspapers in the world. The Times of London is in tabloid format as well, and this size is used in the United Kingdom by nearly all local newspapers! Educate yourself Wade, you sound like a fool. A tabloid format and "tabloid journalism" are two totally different things. You are also a master of ad hominem attacks: you failed to address the substance of the article I posted, and instead rejected the claim "on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument." Your move.
CW: Your tabloid has nothing to do with sandy hook. It is loose association to pretend it has anything to do with sandy hook. Your stretch of imagination implying a link from that to a dead guy for over 12 years and mixing that into a ball of crazy wild eyed speculation is confounding. You have not presented a single rational lucid argument at all. You might as well claim he is a lizard man with dragon wings who puffs out chem trails.. you have the same exact level of proof.
BH: the UK Independent article shows that Freemasons are not just some benign dinner club, as you would have people believe. it is not some loose association, as you would have people believe. "that dead guy" is Gene Rosen's father-in-law. you are deliberately downplaying the information here Wade, because you obviously are in denial. I have produced a very rational argument. You even agree with me that based on the EVIDENCE I present, Gene is not telling the truth! Yet you're still so attached to your official narrative lol. It's quite sad, especially when you have to start pulling out the old "lizard man" line. I really don't care whether you agree with me Wade. You're like a Young Earth Creationist: no matter how much EVIDENCE is presented to you, you will never open your mind to the full TRUTH.
CW: Good enough, I'll be watching your future stuff to see if you can do better than wild stretches of imagination... Yes, you have shown 4 kids went to genes from Room 10 instead of 6.. something I said on my blog in feb. Other than dupeing my info, I dont see relevance. If 4 kids went there instead of 6.. then thats still 4 kids... as you admit, and as confirmed by other witness, like the bus driver. Two hour video, you would think you would do better than something I said in one sentence 4 months ago... better luck with your next one. Oh and btw, pat jacks times are always wrong by 40-60 min. You might adjust rosen to about 1110-1130 depending on the video in use... for accuracy sake.
BH: I have shown that Gene is not telling the truth, and you agree with me. And you claim im "dupeing" YOUR info?? HA! I came out with this information way back on January 2, 2014 on MY OWN SITE BRENDANHUNT.com -- wrong again buckaroo! http://www.brendanhunt.com/-xrutv/xru0029-new-sandy-hook-police-report-contradicts-neighbor-gene-rosens-testimony
paul carter: +xrayultra "You're like a Young Earth Creationist: no matter how much EVIDENCE is presented to you, you will never open your mind to the full TRUTH." LOL Look in the mirror dude you seem to be the one believing in fantasy.
nelly13tube: +paul carter I think your comment was for Wade not Xray! Anyone who actually believes Sandy Hook was a real life shooting are completely and utterly insane! It's so fucking obvious!!
BH: +nelly13tube don't worry about that phony Paul. if you look at his google+ page he does nothing but troll "truther" videos making stupid comments. he is a drone account, here for distraction, nothing more.